I interviewed Derek Sivers

Circus clown to $22M exit

I interviewed one of my heroes.

Meet Derek Sivers: entrepreneur, author, programmer, musician, and former professional circus clown. In 2008, he sold his company CD Baby for $22M, went off-grid to New Zealand, and since has written 5 books.

We talked about:

  • Choosing the belief that is most useful to you

  • Using philosophies as tools

  • How CD Baby’s acquisition changed him

  • Derek’s “fuck Amazon” stance

  • Why Derek crafts his own software

  • The “algorithm ass-kissing” phenomenon

  • Writing the shortest and most useful book possible

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Thanks for reading, nerds.

Let’s blow up the internet together.

Jason Levin